The target "regards the vampire as a trusted friend to be heeded and protected" and this lasts for 24 hours. The charmed = dead conundrum is really only a more powerful version of existing save-or-die effects like Bodak's stare or the Medusa's Gaze.Īdditionally, even under RAW nothing really stops it from being a lone insta-kill. You can dig up some of the earlier threads on people's experiences with Strahd, but there's pretty huge variance in his effectiveness from what people have posted. The Vampire is supposed to be THE archetypal horror foe, and an iconic undead threat, and I really don't think it lives up to that in its present incarnation. Ultimately I'd have to agree to some extent with Jeremy's ruling, but I don't want to on an emotional level. (I got the same response from Jeremy Crawford about a cambion's charm as well a while back.) They let Ireena escape through the pool in Krezk, and they keep refusing his invitations to the castle, so he's starting to get fed up with them.ĮDIT: As an aside, I note that Chris Perkins has said (on Twitter) that a vampire's charm is strong enough to force a PC to fight the other PCs. Strahd's definitely going to kill a PC next time he gets a chance. If not, then OK, I guess they were stupid and deserve to get sucked dry. I am curious to see if, the next time Strahd knocks at their window, the PC on watch has the presence of mind to wake up the others first. Instead, the other PCs woke in the morning to find the window open and their companion lying on the ground outside, cold and pale but still alive. The PC's hit points were already quite low from the fight with the wights, so he dropped to 0 after only one suck from Strahd. Strahd asked the PC to let him in, but the player was clever enough to say that since it wasn't his PC's house, he didn't think he could let him in, so instead Strahd asked him to climb out the window to him. The player had his PC go and open the window, without bothering to wake any of his companions, and Strahd successfully charmed him. The players stated that they'd set a watch, and I randomly determined which one was on watch when Strahd knocked on the window. The party was staying in the Kreszkovs' house for the night, after fighting wights that had risen to stop them from recovering the sunsword in the abbey garden. It's just another part of me still isn't sure it's fair.īy the way, I think I have already telegraphed it once in the campaign. I can see where you guys are coming from, and part of me wants to roll with that. So a vampire biting a charmed target counts as harming it for the purposes of granting a new save: yay or nay? but I don't want it to be like, "Oops, you failed your save against his charm, so now you're dead. I'm asking because I am preparing to run my Curse of Strahd campaign on Friday, and I was thinking that I would have Strahd try to charm one of the PCs, get her to come away from the others with him, and then try to suck her dry so he can bury her and turn her into a vampire spawn. If, however, I got the chance for a new save every time the vampire bit me, then I'd be more OK with. If I was a player, and the DM did that to my character, I'd probably be annoyed. because otherwise it seems like, if a vampire charms someone and then gets them alone, it's game over. I'm thinking yes, but I want to make sure. If the target is willing, does a vampire's bite still count as harmful for the purpose of granting another save? However, it also says that if the vampire does anything harmful to it, the victim gets another saving throw. The rules say that the victim is willing to let the vampire bite them.
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